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I actually liked Supreme once Alan Moore took over. Before that, he was nothing more than Superman with the attitude of The Punisher. I enjoyed some of Brigade, and thought Badrock and Shaft from Youngblood were interesting.

I liked the concept of Youngblood (and Marvel sort of copied it with Ultimates, as they were affiliated with SHIELD, and not independent); it's just he lacked the ability to tell any real stories. Reading his stuff is like watching a porno; the plot does nothing than keep you mildy amused until the next action scene

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I cant stop laughing at that comparison. Even if it is quite true!

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I cant stop laughing at that comparison. Even if it is quite true!

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I always equate porn with direct to video action movies, and Liefeld's writing is on par with that kind of schlock.
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I've read the issues of the relaunch of Glory. It's very good. You can see the Wonder Woman expy in it. But the writer and artist really went a different direction where she was born as a deterent to 2 warring factions. And from what it looks like, both sides are trying to "decommission" her.
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Reading his stuff is like watching a porno; the plot does nothing than keep you mildy amused until the next action scene



Yep... hit that nail on the head.

I had heard the new glory was really good but have not picked it up yet. I have been reading a lot of Executive Assistant books (hit or miss) from Image as well as a few other independents. Liefield lost me after yougn blood tanked in the 90's. That style of art just KILLS it for me. You can tell he was just a comic book guy who watched Commando one too many times as he has pouches everywhere for no reason. Not ONCE in one of his books during the 90's did some one ever go into one of those pouches. And a pouch on the inside of the leg. I am a soldier and I can tell you right now, suspension of disbelief aside with the whole tights thing, that is not going to work.

IN any case, who is drawing Glory right now? I took a look at the art and it is fun. I remember reading in an interview that they were going a different way with the art.

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I have to admit that Mr. Liefeld is one of my guilty pleasures. Yeah, yeah, I know, pouches, hand details, facial lines, everyone looks the same, blah, blah, blah. There's just something about his artwork that makes me stare.

Unfortunately, I haven't kept up with any of his previous titles, but I will say that they cleaned up the dialogue very nicely when the hard cover graphic novel of Youngblood was released a few years ago. Plus it has actual proof in it that Liefeld could draw normal characters at one point (an early submission of Youngblood to Marvel) and Mark Millar comparing him to Jack Kirby!!!

Oh, and I've enjoyed his current and soon-to-be-over runs at DC. Let's face it, was there anyone that excited about Hawk & Dove before Liefeld started drawing it? I think his stuff for Deathstroke is even better. Plus, he's not the only artist who has quit and complained about the current DC setup.



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Welcome aboard. I used to be a fan and then all the ponytails and pouches began to really bother me.

What is the work he's done you like the most?

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For me, his high point came with his run on the New Mutants right before X-Force. It really reminded me of a lot of the lame attempts I had made at the start of some of my superhero role playing campaigns, as old characters are shunted aside and new characters suddenly show up. At first, everybody was fighting everybody, then they started to fight enemies that were coming out of the woodwork, and then finally, for no apparent reason other than they were supposed to be on the same team, everybody decides to stick together. I can count at least three of my early superhero campaigns which had the same exact premise.

I think Liefeld works best on smaller titles where almost everyone's interest is waning. Give him something iconic, like Captain America, and it's a big joke. I thought DC was using him perfectly with titles like Hawk & Dove and Deathstroke (his Deathstroke vs. Lobo recent run has been good, and I can't even stand Lobo most of the time).

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I will say this. I was really into the idea of Youngblood when it came out, but it has never delivered for me.

I hear GREAT things about Glory currently and am almost convinced to pick up the first trade when it comes out.

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Liefeld hasn't drawn these characters in awhile; once Alan Moore took over writing most of his characters, he didn't draw them (I think he did some coloring). The later Youngblood series released by Aracade wasn't drawn by him, and from what I saw on the Image site, none of the new books based on them are drawn/written by him. Which I consider a good thing. Let someone else take them into new directions, and make them more viable characters.

Once in awhile that came out in his work, but not enough to keep people interested back then.
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